does anyone know if there are (canon or fan-made) cardassian swears?
does anyone know if there are (canon or fan-made) cardassian swears?
no one should direct star trek 13 because we should get a new series instead of another fucking action film that ignores all canon
Prepare yourselves for a lil Star Trek spam, guys, basically there’s some real shit going down in the Star Trek fandom in the form of Bob Orci.
Bob Orci is a screenwriter commonly associated with Alex Kurtzman and JJ Abrams, and is notorious for being a real A-hole to fans. Like, when it became pretty clear that the Trekkies weren’t fans of Star Trek Into Darkness (for a lot of reasons: incoherent plot, whitewashing, objectification of the women) he got really defensive, insulted fans, attacked them verbally, and basically was just a real douchecanoe.
Now, even after that, the bad press regarding the Trekkies and the bad press regarding the way he handled a lot of things from the film, he’s gunning to direct the next movie.
This isn’t just any movie for us, either. It’s set to premiere on our 50th Anniversary, September 8, 2016. It’s really amazing and special to us and we’re really excited and we’re desperate to make sure that Bob Orci - a man that the Trek fandom does not like and does not respect the source material we all love - isn’t the man in charge of the franchise whenever the 50th rolls around.
So you might see us pushing Star Trek stuff and also the tag #StopOrci2014, but that’s just because we’re really upset and we’re trying to generate momentum and get Paramount to understand that we don’t want Bob Orci to take over Star Trek
Sorry for all the star trek spam its just that we are trying to save everything as it falls apart.
PLEASE do not be an asshole to these people, I BEG you. Keep it short and sweet and POLITE. No more than maybe 6 sentences or it’ll go immediately into the round file aka trash. Trust me, I’ve done it myself or have turned it over to Studio security as a risk factor if the writer sounded like a nut-job or was advocating violence in any way.
Do not send notes or emails to Rob Moore or Frederick Hartsberry, two names I’ve heard tossed around. They have nothing to do with physical production and you’ll just be bothering them needlessly.
Do send notes (NOT EMAILS THEY WILL NEVER READ THEM) to the following executives if you absolutely feel that you must:
Brad Grey, Chairman & CEO
Adam Goodman, President Paramount Film Group
Marc Evans, President of Production
Lee Rosenthal, President of Physical Production
Address: Paramount Pictures 5555 Melrose Avenue Hollywood, CA 90038
I do not have buildings or suite addresses except for one and I’m not giving it out, sorry.
I AM BEGGING YOU *PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE* BE POLITE.
One of these men is my former boss (who is an ABSOLUTE WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING whom I love dearly and heartily respect) and I am going to see him this summer and I don’t want to have to feel the need to apologize for the fandom. I do not want to lose his goodwill or be blacklisted from the Studio for associating with fandom. PLEASE.
Tips avoid using swears/directly insulting Orci but by all means send notes we might actually be able to get this guy off of trek. He has been a huge problem since the conception.
Be polite. Be courteous. State your objections without insulting anyone.
mmm yea i love the smell of trekkie activism
I love how there is this sweet group of trek blogs on here that all talk and reblog from one another
I tagged a couple (there’s more but these were just ones I could think of off the top of my head:
If you’re not following these guys, DO IT, and like I said, there are tons more so please PLEASE reblog this and add like a fun picture or something if I couldn’t remember your URL off the top of my head so everyone can see you wonderful blogs!!
:’D thank yoouuu! and yeah, everyone follow the star trek blogs!!
These people are pretty fantastic- go follow them!
Nurse Chapel is a beloved [Trek] character,” says Orci. “Even before the first movie came out, a lot of online chatter was, ‘Is Nurse Chapel gonna be there?!’”
Alas, although we hear Dr. McCoy (Karl Urban) say “Nurse Chapel” in 2009’s Star Trek, we never officially saw Christine Chapel — and she’s still MIA in Into Darkness. Instead, Carol Marcus tells Kirk that she learned of his reputation as a ladies man from her friend Christine Chapel, who has become a nurse since her romantic encounter with him — which he does not recall.
“We just figured that would be a great reference, and we loved that Kirk didn’t remember her,” says Orci. “It’s an in-joke that also speaks volumes about his character when it comes to women. That’s why we used it.”
So will Nurse Chapel ever actually make a flesh-and-blood appearance on the Enterprise? Orci just laughs. “That’s certainly possible!By
Bob Orci talks to BuzzFeed about fan references in Star Trek Into Darkness. [x]
All I have to say about this is:
#the misogyny is so fucking palpable im going 2 throw up #you had the opportinity to introduce another female character #(having more than 2 is too much for you maybe???????) #but nooo #you had to be gross and write her off as just another conquest in kirk’s book #HILARIOUS AM I RIGHT!!!! #women are dispensable!!!!! #and not only the fucking blatant misogyny you also seem to not understand kirk’s character #like apparently for these dudes sleeping around = being a sleazy douchebag #which???? no?????????#people who have a lot of sex maybe do b/c…they enjoy sex??????? #wow revolutionary i know #anyway god im just so angry about this
i feel like the most appropriate response to this quote is an apathetic scream of frustration
HEY BOB ORCI COULD YOU MAYBE STOP
Orci just laughs.
So Bob Orci is one of the writers for the Reboot, and the only writer from the first two films still attached to XIII. Now he wants to direct XIII.
Bob Orci has a history of being a jackass to the fans.
raktajino-hot has a pretty good list of all of the things that the creative team behind the Reboot has said: http://raktajino-hot.tumblr.com/post/51171585205/jj-is-not-of-the-body-a-link-collection
Additionally you can find more here: http://yagamie.tumblr.com/post/51981917969/please-stop-talking-a-masterpost
After criticism started coming out about STID, Orci got defensive over the movie. He defended the convoluted plot. He defended the whitewashing.
But the TrekMovie (which had been completely nuTrek positive up to this point) ran an article about how Trek needed to go back to its roots, to television. The article was called “Star Trek is Broken - Here are Ideas on How to Fix It”. You can read it, it’s actually rather kind to nuTrek in my opinion, and basically says that the movies have done well but Star Trek is a television franchise primarily and that is where it should be.
Bob Orci decided to comment on the article under the username boborci. He has commented on other TrekMovie articles under this username, so seeing comments from him on the site wasn’t surprising. What he wrote was:
I think the article above is akin to a child acting out against his parents. Makes it tough for some to listen, but since I am a loving parent, I read these comments without anger or resentment, no matter how misguided.
Having said that, two biggest Star Treks in a row with best reviews is hardly a description of “broken.” And frankly, your tone and attidude make it hard for me to listen to what might otherwise be decent notions to pursue in the future. Sorry, Joseph. As I love to say, there is a reason why I get to write the movies, and you don’t.
Respect all opinions, always, nonetheless.
It got progressively worse after that, culminating in this exchange between a fan
@ 309. boborci – September 2, 2013
“You think action and thinking are mutually exclusive.”
No, we can have a movie with both action & brain, case in point Inception & Indiana Jones movies. What I’m saying that STID was a movie that has lot more action & explosions than a coherent story or character developments.
“Ok, then. Pitch me Into Darkness. Pitch me the plot, and let’s comapre it to other pitches. Go ahead. Let’s see if you actually understood the movie. Tell me what happened?”
I’m sorry but what plot ? Khan was found & used by Section 31 & then he put his own people in the torpedo to save them or whatever & the rest of the movie follow in the same illogical way.
No disrespect to you guys, STID made tons of money but it was worse than ST09 in many aspects.
And Orci’s response:
312 Shitty Dodge. STID has infinetly more social commentary than Raiders in every Universe, and I say that with Harrison Ford being a friend. You lose credibility big time when you don’t honestly engage with the FUCKING WRITER OF THE MOVIE ASKING YOU AN HONEST QUESTION. You prove the cliche of shitty fans. And rude in the process. So, as Simon Pegg would say: FUCK OFF!
After this exchange, Orci took to twitter where he promptly issued a non-apology about how “twice a year I explode at the morons.”
Then he deleted his twitter account afterward.
As far as honestly engaging with his audience, his interactions with people who participated in #KhanWeTalk? (which aimed to open a dialogue between the creative team and fans about the whitewashing of Khan) were generally rude and condescending.
In short, Bob Orci is a sack of shit. He doesn’t like Star Trek. He doesn’t like the fans. He was instrumental in transforming Kirk into a womanizing douchebro. He helped hollow out the Trek franchise and transformed it into just another stupid summer action movie. Then he insulted the fans for not loving it.
Now he is angling to direct XIII. In my opinion, he’s done enough damage already.